The King James version is also how my Grandmother taught the prayer to me, which I prayed so many bedtimes.
"Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. Amen."
I like this, too:
"Our Father, who are in the heavens, let your name be held holy; Let your Kingdom come; Let your will come to pass, as in heaven so also upon earth; Give us today bread for the day ahead; And excuses our debts, just as we have excused our debtors; And do not bring us to trial, but rescue us from him who is wicked. [For yours is the Kingdom and the power and the glory unto the ages.]"
I wonder if the Aeons are infinite, or perhaps, "innumerable"...
“For your Father knows what you need before you ask him.” ;-)
"So, in this prayer, Jesus suggests that we pray for the Father’s will to be done on Earth as it is in heaven. So here we are trying to bring the perfection and the love and all of the virtues and the knowledge, the true knowledge, onto the Earth."
The Totalities of the ALL, which are the "aeons of the aeons" which is to say the Totalities are the root of the aeons, they are infinite because they are co-existent with the Son, who is infinite. Then, in the Gnostic Gospel, the Totalities of the Son have offspring from the act of giving glory to the Father with each other. The Aeons of the Fullness are the generation of the Totalities.
I'm actually working on this week's episode on that very topic. In the Tripartite Tractate it stresses the fact that the ethereal plane is limitless, whereas our created space has a boundary that limits it.
What a great delve you've done with this subject of prayer. And it's fascinating how different translations can give a different " flavour " to a prayer, such as Hart's does from the Greek. His translation has a more natural sort of feel for me...I really like it. I've also read a few different translations for the 23rd Psalm and there was one ancient Greek/Aramaic that I loved. The words in some of the lines have a more softer feel. For example this one, " Yea, though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil. For thou art with me ", it is : " Even though I walk through a valley of deepest darkness , I fear no harm for you are with me. " I think that " the deepest darkness " encompasses any fear, other than just being afraid of death as most of us experience dark times in our lives when faith that the Lord has " got our back " no matter what truly helps us face that darkness.
oh yes, I really do like that 23rd psalm version--valley of deepest darkness, I fear no harm for you are with me.
I think of the valley of death not as in fearing to die, but as life in this material cosmos. This place we live is the valley of death, so we always can use the comfort of the ever-present Lord.
That's a great take on " the valley of death ".....An apt description as much of the material cosmos , and I'd say especially " materialism ", is closer to being a dead end sort of thing than a natural living evolving thing.
The King James version is also how my Grandmother taught the prayer to me, which I prayed so many bedtimes.
"Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the Kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. Amen."
I like this, too:
"Our Father, who are in the heavens, let your name be held holy; Let your Kingdom come; Let your will come to pass, as in heaven so also upon earth; Give us today bread for the day ahead; And excuses our debts, just as we have excused our debtors; And do not bring us to trial, but rescue us from him who is wicked. [For yours is the Kingdom and the power and the glory unto the ages.]"
I wonder if the Aeons are infinite, or perhaps, "innumerable"...
“For your Father knows what you need before you ask him.” ;-)
"So, in this prayer, Jesus suggests that we pray for the Father’s will to be done on Earth as it is in heaven. So here we are trying to bring the perfection and the love and all of the virtues and the knowledge, the true knowledge, onto the Earth."
The Totalities of the ALL, which are the "aeons of the aeons" which is to say the Totalities are the root of the aeons, they are infinite because they are co-existent with the Son, who is infinite. Then, in the Gnostic Gospel, the Totalities of the Son have offspring from the act of giving glory to the Father with each other. The Aeons of the Fullness are the generation of the Totalities.
I'm actually working on this week's episode on that very topic. In the Tripartite Tractate it stresses the fact that the ethereal plane is limitless, whereas our created space has a boundary that limits it.
What a great delve you've done with this subject of prayer. And it's fascinating how different translations can give a different " flavour " to a prayer, such as Hart's does from the Greek. His translation has a more natural sort of feel for me...I really like it. I've also read a few different translations for the 23rd Psalm and there was one ancient Greek/Aramaic that I loved. The words in some of the lines have a more softer feel. For example this one, " Yea, though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil. For thou art with me ", it is : " Even though I walk through a valley of deepest darkness , I fear no harm for you are with me. " I think that " the deepest darkness " encompasses any fear, other than just being afraid of death as most of us experience dark times in our lives when faith that the Lord has " got our back " no matter what truly helps us face that darkness.
oh yes, I really do like that 23rd psalm version--valley of deepest darkness, I fear no harm for you are with me.
I think of the valley of death not as in fearing to die, but as life in this material cosmos. This place we live is the valley of death, so we always can use the comfort of the ever-present Lord.
That's a great take on " the valley of death ".....An apt description as much of the material cosmos , and I'd say especially " materialism ", is closer to being a dead end sort of thing than a natural living evolving thing.